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Diurno
23-03-2009, 10:17 AM
Upgrades!!

We all love them, (I know I do). :D I was just wondering, if you are thinking of upgrading or have upgraded your PC recently.

I'm tempted to get a Core i7 and a Rampage Extreme II and sell my Maximus Extreme and Q6600. Or buy a HD4870. To be or not to be, that is the question.

Any thoughts about what I should buy?

Dalo Harkin
23-03-2009, 12:29 PM
Well I would stay clear of the i7 route mate - they are extortionately priced - your Q6600 when overclocked is more than a match for them.

for an i7 MOBO you are looking over 200 (for a decent one)
you can get your 4870 for that :)

Only thing I have done recently is add more RAM and HDD's :D

Diurno
23-03-2009, 12:50 PM
I was thinking, hmm Watercooling and 4870 1Gb.

So you no longer have 2GB? You have more now?

Dalo Harkin
23-03-2009, 12:52 PM
I was thinking, hmm Watercooling and 4870 1Gb.

So you no longer have 2GB? You have more now?

I wouldnt go for the watercooling - just use air if the case is good enough and use a Freezer 7 and you will get 3.3 out of your quad.
Yes I now have 4GB in this, just havent updated my sig..........which I am off to do now :)

Diurno
23-03-2009, 01:03 PM
Ha okay, my case is the Thermaltake Xaser III (getting old my good girl) but it has like hmm 7 fans, I think, so the temperatures are normally low. I can overclock to a QX6800, no problem.

maynardvdm
23-03-2009, 05:41 PM
While you are spending money, why not get a Nvidia GTX295 :D

Diurno
23-03-2009, 07:30 PM
I can't afford the GTX295, thats like 500. Hmm, might get the GTX280 as apparently it is better than the HD4870 1Gb. Any thoughts?

Are you planning in doing any upgrades, maynardvdm?

Match
23-03-2009, 07:58 PM
Owing to getting married in may, moving house and other financial commitments, upgrading is out the window for now, but.....

for my birthday a new HDD would be nice or another 2gig of RAM :D

maynardvdm
23-03-2009, 08:09 PM
I would love a Core i7. But for now its only on my wish list :)

Diurno
23-03-2009, 09:55 PM
Just out of interest, what are your specs Match?

I'm with maynardvdm, Core i7 --> wish list.

Match
23-03-2009, 09:59 PM
Those who seek wisdom and knowledge will only find what they see (http://www.freepchelp.co.uk/forum/pc-building-and-hardware-reviews/5595-specification-your-machine.html)

Dalo Harkin
24-03-2009, 08:33 AM
I can't afford the GTX295, thats like 500. Hmm, might get the GTX280 as apparently it is better than the HD4870 1Gb. Any thoughts?

Are you planning in doing any upgrades, maynardvdm?

The 260 rivals the 4870 - I await the arguments :D
The 280GTX is aimed more at the 4850x2 and the 285 is aimed at the 4870x2

maynardvdm
24-03-2009, 01:04 PM
But the GTX285 gives the 4870x2 a run for its money :)

Dalo Harkin
24-03-2009, 01:11 PM
and the 285 is aimed at the 4870x2

thats what I said :)

maynardvdm
24-03-2009, 01:13 PM
Sorry i misread, thought you said 295. My bad ;)

Diurno
24-03-2009, 08:48 PM
Haha, so basically the GTX295, is the "extreme" at the moment. Top-range. Only for geeks and pro's (haha , me being steryotypical) I WANT ONE!!!. Wonder what ATI is going to release? Does anyone know about any rumours?

Dalo Harkin
25-03-2009, 08:53 AM
Here you go Rumour Control: Radeon HD 4890 details leaked | News | Custom PC (http://www.custompc.co.uk/news/605506/rumour-control-radeon-hd-4890-details-leaked.html)

Diurno
25-03-2009, 06:52 PM
Do you think, it's going to be more powerful than the GTX295? To be honest I don't, possibly if overclocked but hmm I still doubt it.

Dalo Harkin
26-03-2009, 07:40 AM
I doubt it, but they have to be 'seen' to be trying :D

DirtyPolo
26-03-2009, 09:36 AM
I'm sure they will elease this to be seen doing something as Dave said but in the background they wont be happy at Nvidia's overtake and will be working up something special that make take a bit longer.

Dalo Harkin
26-03-2009, 12:36 PM
The thing that annoys me is that all ATI seem to do is sandwich 2 GPUs together. I know Nvidia have been guilty of it in the past too but they are extortionately expensive and its normally cheaper to buy 2 of the original cards and SLI or crossfire them.

Diurno
26-03-2009, 05:32 PM
I agree that they are expensive, but to be honest they are the future and we can see this happening with CPUs. I know that they are two completely different things, but CPUs started with "one processing unit" then two (dual core) and four (quad core) and god knows what i7 use, i dont even know.

DirtyPolo
26-03-2009, 07:26 PM
It's the old game of "How much can you fit in this small space"

In the future you'll probably find 4 GPUs in the space of a single GPU nowadays,

in that time, the i7 will be laughed at!, well it is now at these prices!

Match
26-03-2009, 10:01 PM
It's the old game of "How much can you fit in this small space"

when you start asking that question the answer comes down to lining up gold atoms, and how much V+ you could put through a line of gold atoms without melting them?

If you can make a transistor, resistor, capacitor, and diode for a light wave then your going to be rich.

But as for now Its a case of as soon as one product is thought of, then they start working on the next, so as one reaches the market the next is not far behind. and of course the new one will always be expensive to cover the cost of developing the next.

so it comes down to paying the money for the latest or just being happy with what you need, and as I have more sense than money, (Not hard I don't have any Money) I will be happy with what I need.

and as what I have does the job, until such time as I start finding that the software I want to run won't work on my machine then I see no need to upgrade.

Dalo Harkin
27-03-2009, 07:17 AM
but thats the point software developers are limited by the technology thats around at the time, and base it on that, so software will ALWAYS be behind hardware

Diurno
28-03-2009, 05:35 PM
I dont think they will always be behind, there is a limit for hardware development and just like Match said, once it reaches the "light" technology that is it they can't go further than that. As we all know, light is the fastest moving thing on the entire galaxy, einstein himself said it. But software doesn't have a limit, they can always release new programs, new OSs, new games. And Sir Sugar, can with no doubt explain this better than anyone. (he had a hardware company and didn't believe in software)

DirtyPolo
28-03-2009, 06:40 PM
Software is not always behind, look at windows.

Windows 64bit is not what it seems, it has actually been limited to 48bit because there is not the proper hardware to let it run at the full 64bit.

Dalo Harkin
30-03-2009, 12:46 PM
- Hardware GPU, MOBO and CPU limit the software.

Developers use the same technology as us, they cannot make it any better as they do not know what advances will be made in Hardware.
thats not to say it wont run on new hardware.

I love topics like this :)

Diurno
18-04-2009, 10:42 PM
Okay, I thought it would be nice to bring such a nice topic back to life.....
What was the best investment you have made lately in terms of software?
Anyone?

Mine was probably hmm... master suite CS4 (adobe). I love it, haha.

maynardvdm
19-04-2009, 07:19 AM
Best investment in terms of software?

Mmmm, probably my Antivirus software a bought recently. :D