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bad graphics and low frame rate

ajackson269

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Hi folks im running a pentium d 2.8, with 2gb 667 ram and a 7900 gs nvidia g card, i play bf2 alot and the graphics aint to good i know this game is quite hungry on spec but it looks really rough i also play eve online and my frame rate is way down compared to my friends pc's... can anyone advise me if i need new hardware thanks
 

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perfomance probs

Hi guys im looking for some help on upgrading my pc its a packard bell imedia mc 2470 i have upgraded the graphics card to a nvidia 7900 gs, 2gb 667 ram and a zalman cnps9700 fan and heat sink i play a lot of hungry games eg. battlefield 2 and eve online but im not to happy with the performance i was wondering if someone could advise me on maxing out the system thanks ...........
 

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Was the system ever good enough to play these games in the first place ?
Has it just deteriorated over time?

If yes to the above questions maybe we can help you clean it up some.
If no to the above then we need to know how much money you have in your budget to build / upgrade a computer.
 

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the pc has always played the games but i feel it could be better im only comparing it to my friends pc. As for my budget im willing to spend whatever it'll cost to upgrade for better perfomance..
 

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im wondering if a new psu would help my graphics card run better and maybe install a the best cpu for my motherboard to help with everything else...
 

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here is the scan and thanks for your help

Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.2
Scan saved at 22:28:23, on 18/05/2008
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v7.00 (7.00.6000.16640)
Boot mode: Normal

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\AOL\ACS\AOLacsd.exe
C:\WINDOWS\eHome\ehRecvr.exe
C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_05\bin\jusched.exe
C:\WINDOWS\eHome\ehSched.exe
C:\Program Files\Real\RealPlayer\RealPlay.exe
C:\Program Files\ESET\ESET Smart Security\ekrn.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\GOTOSO~1\VADERE~1\Vaderetro_oe.exe
C:\apps\ABoard\ABoard.exe
C:\apps\ABoard\AOSD.exe
C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe
C:\Program Files\Google\Common\Google Updater\GoogleUpdaterService.exe
C:\Program Files\Saitek\SD6\Software\ProfilerU.exe
C:\Program Files\Saitek\SD6\Software\SaiMfd.exe
C:\Program Files\ESET\ESET Smart Security\egui.exe
C:\Program Files\Kontiki\KService.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\RUNDLL32.EXE
C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbarNotifier\GoogleToolbarNotifier.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Ahead\Lib\NMBgMonitor.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\PnkBstrA.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Ulead Systems\DVD\ULCDRSvr.exe
C:\Program Files\Sonic\DigitalMedia LE v7\MyDVD LE\USBDeviceService.exe
C:\Program Files\Google\Google Updater\GoogleUpdater.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\rundll32.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Ahead\Lib\NMIndexingService.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\dllhost.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Ahead\Lib\NMIndexStoreSvr.exe
C:\Program Files\Windows Live\Messenger\usnsvc.exe
C:\Program Files\EA GAMES\Battlefield 2\BF2.exe
C:\DOCUME~1\Alan\LOCALS~1\Temp\~e5.0001
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live\WLLoginProxy.exe
C:\Program Files\Windows Live Toolbar\msn_sl.exe
C:\Program Files\Trend Micro\HijackThis\HijackThis.exe

R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = Orange UK Home Page
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = MSN.com
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = Live Search
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = Live Search
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = MSN.com
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Window Title = Microsoft Internet Explorer provided by Orange UK
O2 - BHO: Adobe PDF Reader Link Helper - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Acrobat\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: Orange - {4E7BD74F-2B8D-469E-A1FB-F862B587B57D} - C:\PROGRA~1\orange3\orange3.dll (file missing)
O2 - BHO: SSVHelper Class - {761497BB-D6F0-462C-B6EB-D4DAF1D92D43} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_05\bin\ssv.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {7E853D72-626A-48EC-A868-BA8D5E23E045} - (no file)
O2 - BHO: Windows Live Sign-in Helper - {9030D464-4C02-4ABF-8ECC-5164760863C6} - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live\WindowsLiveLogin.dll
O2 - BHO: Google Toolbar Helper - {AA58ED58-01DD-4d91-8333-CF10577473F7} - c:\program files\google\googletoolbar1.dll
O2 - BHO: Google Toolbar Notifier BHO - {AF69DE43-7D58-4638-B6FA-CE66B5AD205D} - C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbarNotifier\3.0.1225.9868\swg.dll
O2 - BHO: Windows Live Toolbar Helper - {BDBD1DAD-C946-4A17-ADC1-64B5B4FF55D0} - C:\Program Files\Windows Live Toolbar\msntb.dll
O3 - Toolbar: Orange - {4E7BD74F-2B8D-469E-A1FB-F862B587B57D} - C:\PROGRA~1\orange3\orange3.dll (file missing)
O3 - Toolbar: &Google - {2318C2B1-4965-11d4-9B18-009027A5CD4F} - c:\program files\google\googletoolbar1.dll
O3 - Toolbar: Windows Live Toolbar - {BDAD1DAD-C946-4A17-ADC1-64B5B4FF55D0} - C:\Program Files\Windows Live Toolbar\msntb.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [PHIME2002ASync] C:\WINDOWS\system32\IME\TINTLGNT\TINTSETP.EXE /SYNC
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [PHIME2002A] C:\WINDOWS\system32\IME\TINTLGNT\TINTSETP.EXE /IMEName
 

maynardvdm

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#10
Ok Thanks.

Is this the full log, seems that the second part is missing.

How much watt is your current PSU?

Is it just BF2 or on all games?
 

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#11
Very unlikely a new PSU would change the graphics card performance - if it was really starved it should crash and have other issues.

No obvious Malware but the log is not fully posted. There are a couple items of interest though so a full Malware scan would probably be in order.

Also download and run this application to see if it helps some by removing items that are not needed to run at startup all the time.

Startup Lite

Then run through these Malware removal procedures which will rid the system of any it finds.


Your computer could be infected with Malware.

  • Malware is software designed to infiltrate or damage a computer system without the owner's informed consent.
    It is a combination of the words malicious and software.
    The expression is a general term used by computer professionals to mean a variety of forms of hostile, intrusive, or annoying software or program code.


  • Required Cleanup Steps
    1. Disable the Spybot Search & Destroy TEA TIMER if enabled
    2. Run a Temporary file and cache cleaner (ATF)
    3. Run 2 Anti-Malware scanners
    4. Run an Online Anti-Virus / Anti-Malware Scanner
    5. Clear out old System Restore points
    6. If continued Malware type activity is present you may be asked to post a TrendMicro™ HijackThis™ Log file

The reason to run multiple scanners is to ensure that no single scanner is missing something.
The time it takes will vary depending on your system and your internet connection speed.
Typically the SUPERAntiSpyware and Malwarebytes scanners will take between 10 to 90 minutes.
The ESET online scan should take between 1 to 3 hours.
In most cases, these scans will suffice to clean and disinfect your computer.
Heavily infected systems or slower PCs can take much longer to scan and clean.

For best results print the following instructions and bookmark this Web page
To keep this guide printer-friendly, use your cursor to highlight the contents below.
From your browser select File - Print and in the printer dialog box under "Print range"
click the Selection choice to print out these instructions for removal of malware.​



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STEP 1

  • Disable Spybot Search & Destroys' TEA TIMER: (if installed)
    1. Run Spybot-S&D in Advanced Mode.
    2. If it is not already set to do this Go to the Mode menu select "Advanced Mode"
    3. On the left hand side, Click on Tools
    4. Then click on the Resident Icon in the List
    5. Uncheck "Resident TeaTimer" and OK any prompts.
    6. Restart your computer.
__________________________________________________​



STEP 2
  • Follow these instructions carefully.
  • Download ATF-Cleaner from Snapfiles.com to remove un-needed temporary files from your computer that may contain malware.
  • You can also download it from Majorgeeks.com
  • When you run ATF-Cleaner, check the items as shown below for Main.
  • For FireFox, be sure to click on the FireFox tab on top and check the items as shown below for FireFox
  • NOTE: If you don't have FireFox or Opera installed then they will be grayed out and can be ignored
  • Then click on "Empty Selected".
.

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STEP 3
  • Install and run the free version (not the Professional version) of SUPERAntiSpyware from SUPERAntiSpyware.com
    • Accept any prompts to allow SUPERAntiSpyware to install the latest rules and infection definition files.
    • You do not have to send them your e-mail address, just click next.
    • You can leave the automated check for updates on.
    • You can uncheck "Send a diagnostic report to research center" if you don't want to send the information.
    • DO NOT allow SUPERAntiSpyware to protect your Home Page settings.
    • On the Top Left select the Scan your computer button.
    • Make sure there is a CHECK MARK on all Fixed Drives.
    • Click "Perform a Complete Scan". Click "Next" to Repair issues found and reboot the computer when prompted to do so.
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STEP 4
  • Install and run Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware from Malwarebytes - (direct download)
    • Accept all defaults for the installer
    • Allow the program to update the definitions
    • Click on the Quick Scan and click Next.
    • If any items are found allow it to clean them and then Reboot your computer.
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STEP 5
  • Run an online scan with ESET from Free Virus Scan: Use ESET's Online Antivirus Scanner
    • You must use Internet Explorer for this online scan. FireFox, Opera, etc will not work for this scan.
    • Accept the terms and click "Start".
    • Once the scanner is ready, check "Remove found threats" AND "Scan unwanted applications".
    • Click "Start" to begin the scan.
    • When completed restart your computer
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Make sure your internet firewall security is enabled, and then please return to Free PC Help and tell us how the computer seems to be operating.
At that time, you will receive instructions to ***ist you in removing malicious programs from your Add/Remove program list if warranted.

If required this is the download link for TrendMicro™ HijackThis™
Unless instructed to by the Technician helping you then do not download this tool.

Once you and the Technician agree that your system appears to be clean then you should delete all your System Restore points and recreate a new one.
Please follow the instructions here
How to turn off and turn on System Restore in Windows XP
How to turn off and turn on System Restore in Windows Vista

 

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well the psu i have at the moment is a 250 watt which isnt powerfull enough for the graphics card would this make the card run at a lower clock speed as for the log its all that i got. What psu do you think i should use it says on the information for the graphics card that a minimum of 350w is required so i was thinking of getting maybe a 400 or 500 but i dont want to have to change my case...............
 

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Well perhaps Randy or one of the other guys can look that up for you based on your video card. I'll be going to bed soon and have a lot of work tomorrow so might not be online for a bit or only a short time tomorrow.

Yes 250 is pretty low and was the norm for older cheap systems so they could save money.

Is your video card a PCI or a PCIe eXpress

If you're not sure then we can probably suggest some software to run to check that out. IF this is an old cheap system then my guess would be only PCI.
The reason I ask is that the PCIe video cards can require different connectors.
 

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#14
My best suggestion based on my limited knowledge and past posts is to get a dedicated game box.

As you already said you need a better PSU for your card and computer. A better card would help too.

Since you seem to have said money is not an issue a good gameing computer could cost up to $6,000 American.

Can you be more detailed on your specs?
 

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im just wanting get this pc i have running better i think the graphics card is ok for what im doing at the moment its just under powered, which is my fault as i never thought about this at the time however im now stuck as to which psu to purchase i was thinking of one which i seen on a site called XCASE this particular psu is supposed to be dedicated to nvidia cards and is a 480w but my problem is i dont want to go to all the hasslle of changing my case could you advise me please.. thanks
 

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Hi

I would suggest anything from 480 Watt and upwards would be enough. Just make sure the power plug are the same (the ones going to the motherboard).

As long as its the same size or shape and the holes align on the case it should be ok.
 

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Hi thanks for the info ill just get that 480 watt i seen and hope for the best it was only about 40 quid anyway cheers guys and thanks for the help agian......