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Pc problem

mahen

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My advent pc T8 (http://www.uktsupport.co.uk/advent/pc/t8.htm) have a problem now. Nothing come on the screen. Just fan noise. Can't hear hard disk booting up either. Lights on power swithch (at the front) No light to keyboard or mouse. Cannot open dvd drive with the button. what could be the problem is?
 

KenB

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Hi and welcome to FpcH

Do you get any beeps when you switch on ? ( assuming that you did get just one beep before )
If so - what sequence ? ( 1 long 2 short .....or other )
 

mahen

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Hi KenB,
No I don't get any beeps at all. Just fan working.
 

mahen

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Pc problem

I have removed eveything apart from power supply to mother board. But still no boop sound. There is no speaker in this computer. But fan is working. what could be the fault?
 

KenB

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There is no speaker in this computer
You will not get POST beeps then :)

With everything off the board ( apart from the 20(4) connector from the PSU ) add the video card and connect the monitor.
Boot up.
Do you get anything on screen now?

Is this an actual video card or do you have on-board video ( direct from the motherboard ) ?

Can you try the monitor on another system to check if this is OK ?
 

mahen

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Pc Problem

I have added the graphics card and nothing on the screen. Monitor is working with another pc. No on board graphics card. I haven't try this this graphics card on another pc. what are the test for Mother board. Or Processor?
 

Synapse

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If you have pulled everything and there is no sign of life, best thing would be to try with a different PSU.

I'd be tempted to leave at least one memory module in, but no USB devices (as they can sometimes prevent boot).

what are the test for Mother board. Or Processor?
Correct diagnosis and replacement. Very much doubt the CPU is faulty.

Does your video card have a heatsink and fan, or just a heatsink? If it does have a fan, does it spin when you power up the board?

Ken, I don't think there is onboard video, according to this link

http://www.pcmadd.com/MS-7187_pcmadd.pdf
 

mahen

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Pc Problem

I have added one memeory module and tried. But no sign of anything apart from fan. Graphics card only have heatsink. So next option is to try with another PSU. Need to find one now. Has to be campatable PSU?
 

KenB

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Has to be campatable PSU?
The PSU does not need to be the same wattage to test the basic system.
It could be more or even less wattage.

If your PSU has died then you would not want to replace it with a lesser wattage PSU.

It is common for a PSU that needs replacing to spin fans etc but not have enough power to run the rest of the system.
 

mahen

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pc problem

tried with differnt PSU, one memory module & graphics card. But no change. Just fan working.
 

KenB

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Looks like motherboard. ( unless synapse has another option ? )
 

Synapse

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I tend to agree with Ken, the only thing I would do now is make sure the power is off and remove the BIOS battery for 30 seconds, to reset the BIOS, refit it and try again.

No change I'm afraid your board is probably faulty.
 

mahen

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pc problem

no change after reset the BIOS.
 

KenB

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I think the board needs replacing.

Before you do so I would ring a local pc tech and ask if he has the facility to test it and how much it will cost.

If your m/board does need replacing then there is every liklihood that the Operating System will need to be re-installed.
If the board is exactly the same then you stand a very good chance of being OK.
XP can undergo a Repair Install which will associate the OS with the new m/board and retain files etc.

If you go down this route I would advise getting the files and photos etc off the drive before you start.
This can be done with a HDD to USB adapter or external enclosure.
 

mahen

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When replace the mother board, what should I look for? Compatable mother board.
 

Plastic Nev

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Hi, if possible it would be best if you can obtain the exact same make and type, which from your initial post I found to be a Micro Star ms-7187. This is a Micro ATX type board. You may be able to find an exact replacement for sale on E Bay.
If not as it may be out of date, a similar board will have to found, Synapse may be best to help with that if you cannot find the correct board, please let us know.

I did find a full manual for the ms-7187 motherboard which will be of help when fitting a new one, have a look at the PDF here=

http://www.pcmadd.com/MS-7187_pcmadd.pdf

Nev.
 
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